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	<title>Comments on: Kinda-sorta waking up to media bias</title>
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		<title>By: CP</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonswadley.com/2008/03/kinda-sorta-waking-up-to-media-bias.html#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>CP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you shut comments down on your site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you shut comments down on your site?</p>
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		<title>By: CP</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonswadley.com/2008/03/kinda-sorta-waking-up-to-media-bias.html#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>CP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting short piece:

&lt;a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1725955,00.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1725955,00.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting short piece:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1725955,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1725955,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: CP</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonswadley.com/2008/03/kinda-sorta-waking-up-to-media-bias.html#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>CP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reading something today that was complaining about the media bias in favor of McCain. The claim was that no matter how many gaffes McCain blurts out (on foreign policy, e economics, and so on) the press gives him a pass, suggesting that he's having a "senior moment" and that his foreign policy cred and economic policy cred is above reproach.

Still, the piece argued, how many gaffes do you get before that cred comes into question? The piece wondered if Clinton -- who no doubt has a lot of cred in these areas, would be given a pass by the press on this sort of thing (the assumption was no).

Just something can made me think of your post, given my suggestion that many on the left suggest that the press is pretty biased in the other direction too.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading something today that was complaining about the media bias in favor of McCain. The claim was that no matter how many gaffes McCain blurts out (on foreign policy, e economics, and so on) the press gives him a pass, suggesting that he&#8217;s having a &#8220;senior moment&#8221; and that his foreign policy cred and economic policy cred is above reproach.</p>
<p>Still, the piece argued, how many gaffes do you get before that cred comes into question? The piece wondered if Clinton &#8212; who no doubt has a lot of cred in these areas, would be given a pass by the press on this sort of thing (the assumption was no).</p>
<p>Just something can made me think of your post, given my suggestion that many on the left suggest that the press is pretty biased in the other direction too.</p>
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		<title>By: CP</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonswadley.com/2008/03/kinda-sorta-waking-up-to-media-bias.html#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>CP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem. Just to throw it out there -- I think bias patrolling is done well by Media Matters (on the side of the left) and News Busters (on the right).

What's amusing is to read MM talk about, say, the bias of the NYT and use examples from a specific day. Then flip to NB and read about the bias of the NYT, with examples from the same day.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem. Just to throw it out there &#8212; I think bias patrolling is done well by Media Matters (on the side of the left) and News Busters (on the right).</p>
<p>What&#8217;s amusing is to read MM talk about, say, the bias of the NYT and use examples from a specific day. Then flip to NB and read about the bias of the NYT, with examples from the same day.</p>
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		<title>By: Swad</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonswadley.com/2008/03/kinda-sorta-waking-up-to-media-bias.html#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Swad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grr. CP, I had a huge reply planned out, but I'll just make a new post in a few days (after I turn in my remaining finals essays).

You ask good questions, and bias is a notoriously difficult thing to "prove," but I'll do my best.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grr. CP, I had a huge reply planned out, but I&#8217;ll just make a new post in a few days (after I turn in my remaining finals essays).</p>
<p>You ask good questions, and bias is a notoriously difficult thing to &#8220;prove,&#8221; but I&#8217;ll do my best.</p>
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		<title>By: CP</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonswadley.com/2008/03/kinda-sorta-waking-up-to-media-bias.html#comment-101</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've got to admit, I just don't buy into this whole thing. Sure, I think it's true, there are shows that are biased, some more than others. And there are networks that, on the whole, are more biased than others. MSNBC and Fox the clear worst here, with FOX taking the obvious cake for the Pravda award, IMO.

But for the most part, with those two cases aside, I think it's amazing how much very supposed "liberal" outfits will carry the water of conservatives, from this story to that one, unquestioningly importing the talking points of the right. The water is very muddied, and with those two more obvious propaganda outfits aside, it's not clear to me that there's institutional bias.  It also seems to me that the media love blood, left or right it doesn't matter.

For me, it's more a question of the need for journalists to actually know facts and ask questions. To investigate instead of just repeat. And that goes for both sides.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got to admit, I just don&#8217;t buy into this whole thing. Sure, I think it&#8217;s true, there are shows that are biased, some more than others. And there are networks that, on the whole, are more biased than others. MSNBC and Fox the clear worst here, with FOX taking the obvious cake for the Pravda award, IMO.</p>
<p>But for the most part, with those two cases aside, I think it&#8217;s amazing how much very supposed &#8220;liberal&#8221; outfits will carry the water of conservatives, from this story to that one, unquestioningly importing the talking points of the right. The water is very muddied, and with those two more obvious propaganda outfits aside, it&#8217;s not clear to me that there&#8217;s institutional bias.  It also seems to me that the media love blood, left or right it doesn&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>For me, it&#8217;s more a question of the need for journalists to actually know facts and ask questions. To investigate instead of just repeat. And that goes for both sides.</p>
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